Have you guys heard about podcasts? I’m on one!

I had a great conversation with my old Penguin colleague Giuseppe Castellano for his podcast, The Illustration Department. You can give it a listen here.

I talk about things like how amazing the other editors at Viking are, and what it was like for me to work on Viola Davis’s first picture book, and what editors actually do all day, and why authors need agents, and what I think about cancel culture, and why people (like, as a species) are so bad at apologizing.

Do I say the word “um” too much? YES! But do I also say some smart things about publishing and culture? YOU TELL ME!

Here’s that link again: https://illustrationdept.com/podcast/leilasales